yeah . it's gonna be . it's gonna be good going over there but also pretty scary just cos it like . ahh I dunno what am I doing ? there's gonna be three months where I'm not really earning money oh does the school not start for three months ? no . so um I'm . I mean I'm gonna s- . work . right now and I'm . gonna be saving quite a bit for that but . there'll be that and there'll be . having to speak French all the time and - <I dunno> and moving in with *name* well that's probably in some ways the least scary part do you think ? yeah . it's . it's gonna be . a big thing . well that's . no that <yeah> yeah that feels like it's just easy . [noise] mmm like that's gonna be okay - yep - were you practically living together um no . in France ? <no> not even <no> wait a minute I'm just gonna . <yeah> fix up this leak . it's the most annoying thing in the world . mmm - I don't know I um - I think I probably stayed at his house a few times - like . three times if that . <yeah> I don't think we ever spent . a whole twenty four hours together . <really ?> really yeah they must have been good few hours that you spent together for him to come over [laughs] oh they were . yeah I mean we only kind of knew each other for like a - bout two months at the most <wow> yeah . and were you together for like one month ? [laughs] like a month on and off kind of [laughs] that's so cool though <so> yeah I don't know I dunno I reckon that's enough . when you like someone yeah oh yeah it it absolutely was yep . yeah - <[laughs]> crazy . but this time round it's different like this time round we're just kind of waiting and waiting but . we know it's gonna be okay or <yeah> at least we feel like it's gonna be okay you know . no it will be yeah . has his divorce and stuff come through ? nearly . no . it's still coming <mmm> it's such a long process <yeah> . ahhhh [laughs] ahhhh [laughs] oh oh my gosh . have you talked to *name* ? no not yet <[unclear]> not since [unclear] is he in Christchurch ? he's in Lyttelton Lyttelton ? <yeah> where's he living ? um . near . <oh> I know he's living near Voelas road because we have relations that live there <oh okay> and I know that he's living near them so he's on that side that's around the bay yup <yip> a little bit . <okay> yeah . the other side of the roundabout . mmm [yawning] but yeah - hum . I guess I'll have to some time . yeah ehh ahh is he gonna um . is he gonna stay in Christchurch for a while ? yeah I think so his um . his girlfriend has to do her MA - here <[laughs]> here what what department ? history . okay . just down . down the corridor <[laughs]> oh my god I always think it's over there it is just down there isn't it ? yeah [noise] it's fun . yep yep okay mm hm oh . yeah well I know - mmm [laughs] yeah like . you know the fun of that [background noise] I guess . no I mean it will be fine actually <yeah> just don't even think about it that much <yeah> although I keep seeing people around who look like him . like um . <yeah> just . short . really blond guys everywhere <[laughs]> I'm like . oh . what's going on ? <yeah> mmm . and so yeah . <okay> it's . it's gonna be fine though . yeah . yeah - it's kinda cool for sure <[unclear]> is he working ? um . I don't . think so . <right> but I'm sure he'll find oh he's doing a little bit of work for *name* which is . you know they do shows for he did Sparks in the Park and things . oh yeah <um> but I don't think he . he didn't have a good time of it so . <mmm> he never had a good time of it . so he's . not doing that anymore . yep . and . yeah I think he's just deciding what to do he might go and do some polytech courses that he was talking about yip and random things . <okay> so yeah - yes . so when are you gonna come see Catch twenty two ? when's it . when's it on ? it starts next Friday . and it goes ? to the following Saturday . w- and no show Sunday Monday when should I come ? um . the Friday the first Friday or Saturday night would be best . <yeah> for us . cool to get more people in <yeah> and also a pile of posters are going around . and on the web it like . it's had the wrong date on them . oh yeah you said <[laughs]> and so it means that people might not <so> show up on the Saturday night so oh okay <yeah> yeah . yip - <yeah> yeah . oh I'll come to it on the weekend probably . yeah . noone's actually said how much that's gonna cost us but . [unclear] how much are the tickets ? tickets are . <round> round eight for students <yep> fifteen for adults . mmkay ten dollars for staff - do you have a staff card ? yeah . external yeah yeah you could use that staff one yeah yep well really . well actually . <[laughs]> like . I think I could hook some people up with tickets . <so maybe> yeah but you wanna make money . as well . no we do wanna make money as well but it's just a ca- you need to [unclear] it's about choosing who to give the free tickets to . so I'm like maybe <right> . yeah yeah I'm like . maybe poor *name* deserves a free ticket . ah not really [laughs] nah don't give one to me . have you got people who've kind of helped you - with stuff that need free <tickets ?> oh well I mean everyone in the show kinda gets . tickets and stuff so . <yeah> I dunno we'll sort it out I mean it will be fine <yeah> but if there are lots of . going maybe . yeah no that's cool opening night should be cool <mmm> oh it's so scary . it's so scary I've never like . neither of us have really . *name* or I have really directed before it's such a like <yeah ?> . learning experience like <okay> . yeah cos it's not like you kinda just think that you would just stand in front of them and tell them what to do and things but it's um <yep> it's a lot more . well it's more I mean it's every part of it cos you're meant to be thinking about the whole thing but I think <yeah> there was a problem that neither of us had . well . it was kind of *name*'s job too so I . stood back from it . had a really clear vision about how they wanted it to be <mmm> <yeah> and so yeah - <yeah> and I guess some directors are way demanding like I want it to be like this whereas we're more like things are happening and we're like okay yeah we'll go with that [laughs] yeah yeah . and also like getting people to . finding out a way to help someone . get . a character . like do you know what I mean ? like you can't just say to some people . do it this way . or something it's just . they won't do it and so you gotta help them like . get there another way . <yeah okay> and so there are all these different techniques and things but I don't really know them . like I'm not schooled in them . mmm . mmm . yeah no it's funny I mean it - I'm only . I dunno it seems like these things only just . come together right at the very end <yeah totally> I had no idea . before I think maybe it was when you did that last play when . the one that you were last in . ahh . which we came to see it I don't know I can't remember but - yeah . just seeing these things like be absolute chaos until <yeah> the last few days . and then everything's fine I wouldn't have thought it would go like that I thought you'd have people kinda - who knew what was happening yeah . I wonder I mean I don't even know it was all like sorted professionally if it's any better than that like I assume that <yeah yeah> professionally it is but it might not be <yeah> but I assume that you've got people who are being paid . cos that's the other gish issue . err . issue is that we're all amateurs and it's really hard to get people on board who you can completely <yeah right> trust with everything cos that're wa- all you want like . a producer is either the busiest person or . the least busy person depending on . how many people they can get to help them out . mmm <yip> cos if they could if they got . every person who was meant to . to do their job . you know and got them quickly . it'd be so sweet yeah but our producer's having to do costumes now I think and <ohh> things like that yeah . yeah really ? yeah so it's kinda hardcore <okay> and I think it does work out but I like I'm . freaking out about building like there's actually like . *name*'s building the set oh yeah <yeah> but . my brother was meant to be helping and then he pulled out and he actually pulled out quite a while ago and I told *name* . and I said you need to get someone else . <yip> but then he just told me today that he absolutely wasn't doing any part so I just told her that and then she's like oh we need someone else and I'm like . <yeah> yeah we did a month ago ohhh no but I don't know . it's okay it just means that . yeah <yeah> . we've got one builder . okay and a set like that's like a mini house to build sort of thing yip . okay . <wow> but I mean everyone else comes to help out like there there'll probably be enough people to help <yeah> but they don't know what they're doing and they're useless and they can't do anything yeah no okay you kinda need yup . yip . kinda need we also need to buy the materials just . focus [unclear] and like . yeah . even just things like that like everyone might show up on Saturday and they're like what and . there's nothing to build with ohhh mmm - [unclear] yeah . mmm . so you can pay . *name* and he gets like . nah he doesn't get paid he doesn't ? <nah> doesn't get paid ? wow <nah> okay so noone gets paid . I mean <right> I guess a lot of people though they do start off at this level and then they go on to a higher level and so it is kind of a gateway into being paid . yeah yip . but it's kind of <yup> it's all just for fun . <okay> with um . rent . do you know . have you seen the signs around for rent ? yeah I have um that's . like the people doing that we know them <mmm> and they are um . they . they're paying people . but they're getting funded by like . one of them's a millionaire <psh> the father's a millionaire and stuff <wow yeah> and so . he's given them like . a hundred thousand dollars or something <ohh> for a show <[laughs]> and we do it like on a budget of ten thousand sort of thing <so yeah> yeah okay . yeah the only thing is I was thinking about that I'm like you can have the highest production value in the world . but there actually . I don't even I just don't even know that there's that much talent available <no> like . <okay> and it's always gonna drag the show down like <yeah . yeah> I think it's better to have a cheaper show and better talent <yeah> but I mean you just can't you can't . get that . you know yeah cos we didn't have like . that many people show up for auditions really I mean cos it was in the summer holidays and stuff how do you do you . advertise . I think for . some people for people or ? advertise in the paper but on the whole is it . kind of pretty close circle ? <well> yeah it's kind of like . you put an ad out to like you put it on the dramasoc newsletter which goes round to the club . <okay> but . out of like there's over a hundred club members but active ? there's probably only like thirty active club members and then . probably only ten that are available or something and then you . get other people you know <yeah> from other things . but it still doesn't end up being that many people especially when there are other shows on and there's . been like . three or four other shows on at the moment yeah okay like that Outwit show like <oh yeah> some of those guys might have . they might have been in it um <okay> *name* . I don't know whether he would have but I think he might have or <right> I went to school with *name* <oh really ?> he's a couple of years older than me but yeah . <yeah> I was . best friends with his . little sister that's so cool <ya [laughs]> ahh it's such a small town I remember going round to his place and yeah it is absolutely <mmm> - did you have like a crush on him or anything ? not . maybe on his other brother [laughs] - - [zip boils in background] but ah yeah no - it's kind of funny how yeah . I wish I had *name* was um . an older brother sometimes so that <yeah> I he could have had like cute friends and stuff that would have been cool <yeah> cos he's actually got some friends and I'm like . one day you'll be hot <yeah> but you're all you all seem so young to me . and stuff . <oh> if only he'd been an older brother how old is he ? he's j- gonna turn twenty . next week oh . it's not that young [laughs] no it's not that young . it's still too young for me . yeah yeah . <okay> but it's um <[laughs]> but yeah he's - he's all growing up <yeah> the other guys said that he looked really ol- Anna and Michael were saying that he looked way older like that he looked they thought he was like twenty four like my age or something <really ?> <yeah> yeah actually I think it . when I saw him in the car park that day with you - he looked like he was the same age as you . he does not or he he did <[laughs]> he looks like a little boy [laughs] yeah . no maybe that's more a reflection of me I don't know [laughs] yeah . yeah maybe he does I think he . <yeah> I think sometimes I am surprised by like . there's kind of a . a bit of a like . man . broadness to him and stuff so <yeah> yeah yeah I guess so . mmm oh my gosh . are you looking at your siblings and going oh my gosh I yeah definitely . yeah . my little brother's cool . yeah he seems real cool he's um he is cool yeah he's just started playing the bass guitar - and . I dunno I just feel like he knows so much stuff about so many things he . spends a lot of time with my dad and so he does a whole lot of farm stuff and . he goes fishing and . don't you wanna do that ? he's just a really clever boy I wanna be . just hang out and do stuff and learn stuff and <yeah> <yeah> without any grades or marks or anything . build stuff and . yeah I was thinking like cos . you know how . all the arts gardening and oh I dunno and all this stuff . it's often created . i- it has to be created by rich people half the time just because it's people who . have the time to . write . and yeah <yeah> to devote their lives to being artists or . I dunno I mean you can do it these days differently I guess now . mmm but it is - yeah yeah - - I know like . I dunno went to Cecil Beaton . you know the gallery . exhibition when he had his photos . the photos of Cec . Cecil Beaton's photos were at the art gallery . yeah were you here ? yeah at the big . yeah I didn't didn't see it <oh> but I mean . it's kind of like . a big public . money making sort of show <yeah> <yeah> but like there was some really cool photos in there <right> and the my favourite were the ones like earliest on . like before he was doing celebrity ones and they were just of like <mmm> . his . scene and his friends . and they were all like . so and so poet . so and so . artist I dunno everyone was really creative and stuff and they were just all like . I dunno so stylish and just having fun and playing and stuff and it was just like . ahh . <yeah> and I really love that era he lived in too like . the twenties and stuff . yeah and the . when . when was he . yeah okay . yeah . just the I dunno everything is so delicious then . yeah - yeah I dunno it's probably or what you can see of it now what you can see of it now and I guess <yeah> and to that small privileged group of society I'm like you know <yeah> . <yeah> to the majority of people I'm sure living now is way better . yeah . but . mmm - yeah - do you ever get freaked out about how much goes into keeping you alive or just ? . I was just thinking like you know I was just thinking as I walked back and I had this plastic container . with my food in it and then I'm just like . and then someone I know . yeah made that and then someone else made this <yep yeah> and like . in a day I probably produce this much rubbish mmm and . this much food and it comes from this . like five . I I think it . fifty people have touched what I've touched today or something like that <yep> yeah it's crazy I had one of those moments . yesterday I think and you just . yeah . it's k- it's pretty worrying - it's kind of freak out yeah . well do you know what also worries me ? the fact that I might not be able to like look after myself . like um - just dunno let's say what do you mean ? let's say the world there was a . an apocalypse . I dunno a nuclear . something and then I was like one of the only people left I actually wouldn't know how to . look after myself like with <really ?> you know I'm used to pressing buttons and I don't know that oh yeah you you're pretty maybe but maybe not practical though like . maybe I don't know I think so and then you're like no but I've only like and I've only just too like . gone tramping and things [unclear] I've only just started in this last year and stuff . <yeah> and before that . I would have been . so much more useless like I've learnt heaps just in a year <yep> and I'm like . wow . it's pretty shitty to not know stuff <yeah> I mean I don't know that I could light a fire using two sticks <[laughs]> I think . I've seen people do it on the movies - <yeah> yeah I'd be pretty useless living . outdoors I think - um . I don't know I'm really really unfit at the moment yeah me <too> I know that . yeah - how do oh <but> you could go the start going swimming at Centennial . you could get up early I could get up at . maybe five and and start doing that yeah [laughs] don't you start at ten thirty some days ? no it's the yeah it's not that bad . yep . depends how tired you are yep - <yeah> that's the thing I was always waying up in Sumner . um . what's better to do the exercise or get the sleep - [phone rings in background] c- . cos you know . both of them kind of wake you up <yeah> my phone's going <yeah> <okay> I just think I'll ignore it . yeah ? yeah . maybe . <um> it can't be that important no alright - unless it's really important .